about how it extends throughout the ecosystem to provide all of the local -- all of the local communications and telecom that has to go in. all of the proliferation of mobility devices creates more demands for infrastructure, good on both sides of the business. >> if that's the case, and it's a secular growth story, in 2013, you said this isn't going to be a total washout. 7 1/2 times earnings, we will buy what market wants to sell us? >> yeah, jim. we haven't made a call on 2013. as you referenced, we came out with what we thought was more muted outlook for the december quarter. lower than the normal guidance, but apparently some people were presently surprised. i tell you, we have on our buyback, total authorization of 7.50, through the end of the september quarter, 456 million, since october 1st, another $60 million, and an active participant. at these levels as we do our own valuation, on an intrinsic valuation basis, we're a good investment, and capital, new m&a, we'll take the opportunity to do so, and we're active with the program. >> very right when you come into buy.